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		<title>By: Baby Boomer Or Senior? Here Are The Answers To Your Questions. &#124; 7Wins.eu</title>
		<link>http://adriandayton.com/2009/05/why-partners-dont-understand-generation-y/comment-page-1/#comment-1282</link>
		<dc:creator>Baby Boomer Or Senior? Here Are The Answers To Your Questions. &#124; 7Wins.eu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Who Else Wants A Fashion Job? : *Easy Sale* - Millions Want One. &#124; 7Wins.eu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who Else Wants A Fashion Job? : *Easy Sale* - Millions Want One. &#124; 7Wins.eu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Millennials: Not Lazy, Just Misunderstood&#160;&#124;&#160;Millennial Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millennials: Not Lazy, Just Misunderstood&#160;&#124;&#160;Millennial Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Adrian Dayton, a young attorney I met on Twitter, posted an interesting dialog today in his blog, Marketing Strategy &amp; The Law. It reports a panel discussion among Millennial attorneys and their bosses. This dialog illustrates [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Blawg Review #218 &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blawg Review #218 &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Greenfield and I went back and forth on this issue over the past month, and even though Abovethelaw and the Wall Street [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Generation Y: An Explantion &#171; Brazos Valley Defense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Generation Y: An Explantion &#171; Brazos Valley Defense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by Kramer on June 3, 2009  Generation Y has a bad rap in the workplace these days.  We&#8217;re lazy, don&#8217;t want to show up on time or actually do any work, and we expect to have the corner office from the day we walk in the door.  And if law is your chosen field, you can&#8217;t really do that.  Over at his fine blog, Simple Justice, Scott Greenfield took issue with Gen Y lawyer and blogger Adrian Dayton, that Gen Y isn&#8217;t really lazy, we just want our work to actually have a point. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Moneypenny</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 02:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies all, long comment follows !  

I work in Australia, and the same issues resonate here.

In my experience working both in-house and in a BigLaw firm, Gen Y lawyers have been as willing to put in the hours and the work as any other generation (including Gen X).  What they have not been willing to do is to put in those hours and undertake that work without understanding why it is required and what the end goal is - client service is absolutely appropriate as a reason, as is learning and development, but doing something in an utterly inefficient way is not.  And they&#039;re certainly (and, in my view, rightly) not interested in face time for the sake of it.  (Quite apart from anything else, a client should only be paying for productive work on their matter, and &#039;face time&#039; is often a proxy for bill padding.  Which in my view is a theft from the client.)

I don&#039;t think either of those latter propositions are unreasonable, and I consider it my obligation as a senior Gen X lawyer to train and explain what it&#039;s all about and why I&#039;m requiring work to be done and to be done in a particular way.  I&#039;ve certainly never accepted &#039;it&#039;s just the way it is&#039; or &#039;that&#039;s how we&#039;ve always done it&#039; is a reasonable or appropriate basis for inefficient or illogical work practices, and I don&#039;t quibble with Gen Y when they ask those questions.  I further think it&#039;s my obligation to ensure that instructions are given in a way which maximises the efficiency of my junior teams or external counsel - not only is it professional courtesy, it benefits me, since it&#039;s normally far less costly to do so whether in hours spent or costs incurred.

That said, I agree with Holden and Scott that law is a complex, tough, high pressure occupation that requires time and dedication, and if you don&#039;t want to put in the hours and time, then don&#039;t do it.  Considering how client service can be maintained by doing things more efficiently is one thing; assuming you have the right not to pull your weight or do the work because you have other competing interests is another.  If you have other priorities in life, make them your priority and accept your choice - don&#039;t suggest anyone forced you into it.  And if someone makes it clear that the requirement for making partner is to be able to work and bill more than any other person around, well, nobody can say you weren&#039;t warned.  If you don&#039;t want to do that because that&#039;s not how you want to spend your time, then don&#039;t complain when you&#039;re not made partner.  Go set up your own firm, go in-house, change careers - take responsibility for the choices you&#039;ve made about the rewards you seek in your life.

And never, ever, leave your client in the lurch because you have an elsewhere to be.</description>
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<p>I work in Australia, and the same issues resonate here.</p>
<p>In my experience working both in-house and in a BigLaw firm, Gen Y lawyers have been as willing to put in the hours and the work as any other generation (including Gen X).  What they have not been willing to do is to put in those hours and undertake that work without understanding why it is required and what the end goal is &#8211; client service is absolutely appropriate as a reason, as is learning and development, but doing something in an utterly inefficient way is not.  And they&#8217;re certainly (and, in my view, rightly) not interested in face time for the sake of it.  (Quite apart from anything else, a client should only be paying for productive work on their matter, and &#8216;face time&#8217; is often a proxy for bill padding.  Which in my view is a theft from the client.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think either of those latter propositions are unreasonable, and I consider it my obligation as a senior Gen X lawyer to train and explain what it&#8217;s all about and why I&#8217;m requiring work to be done and to be done in a particular way.  I&#8217;ve certainly never accepted &#8216;it&#8217;s just the way it is&#8217; or &#8216;that&#8217;s how we&#8217;ve always done it&#8217; is a reasonable or appropriate basis for inefficient or illogical work practices, and I don&#8217;t quibble with Gen Y when they ask those questions.  I further think it&#8217;s my obligation to ensure that instructions are given in a way which maximises the efficiency of my junior teams or external counsel &#8211; not only is it professional courtesy, it benefits me, since it&#8217;s normally far less costly to do so whether in hours spent or costs incurred.</p>
<p>That said, I agree with Holden and Scott that law is a complex, tough, high pressure occupation that requires time and dedication, and if you don&#8217;t want to put in the hours and time, then don&#8217;t do it.  Considering how client service can be maintained by doing things more efficiently is one thing; assuming you have the right not to pull your weight or do the work because you have other competing interests is another.  If you have other priorities in life, make them your priority and accept your choice &#8211; don&#8217;t suggest anyone forced you into it.  And if someone makes it clear that the requirement for making partner is to be able to work and bill more than any other person around, well, nobody can say you weren&#8217;t warned.  If you don&#8217;t want to do that because that&#8217;s not how you want to spend your time, then don&#8217;t complain when you&#8217;re not made partner.  Go set up your own firm, go in-house, change careers &#8211; take responsibility for the choices you&#8217;ve made about the rewards you seek in your life.</p>
<p>And never, ever, leave your client in the lurch because you have an elsewhere to be.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Get Out of My Face: Why Gen Y Refuses to Put in Face Time &#124; Adrian Dayton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Get Out of My Face: Why Gen Y Refuses to Put in Face Time &#124; Adrian Dayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 12:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think that is the disconnect. Generation Y wants their life to mean something. They want to handle work that is significant, and they certainly don&#8217;t want to crank out the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Millennials: Generation Enlightened or Generation Lazy? &#124; Legal 411 .</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Millennials: Generation Enlightened or Generation Lazy? &#124; Legal 411 .</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the panel was reportedly lively &#8212; a shorthanded version of how it all went down is captured here, by Dayton. Our favorite reported quotes come from Greenfield, the author of the consistently good [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wall Street Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Millennials: Generation Enlightened or Generation Lazy?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wall Street Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Millennials: Generation Enlightened or Generation Lazy?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 20:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the panel was reportedly lively &#8212; a shorthanded version of how it all went down is captured here, by Dayton. Our favorite reported quotes come from Greenfield, the author of the consistently good [...]</description>
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